Google
the phrase “money as debt”, and you’ll find numerous claims that the money
created by commercial banks is a form of debt, or that for every pound of such
money, there is a corresponding pound of debt.
This
idea is seems very plausible because whenever the commercial bank system
creates £X of new money the recipient of the new money seems to be “in debt” to
their bank to the tune of £X.
But
dig a little deeper, and the latter “in debt” idea falls to pieces.
We’ll start with a barter economy.
When
trying to solve a problem, it’s a good idea to take the simplest possible case
of the problem and solve that. Then add the complexities later.
So
let’s start with a simple barter economy where citizens decide that barter is
inefficient and that instead, they’ll allow commercial banks to set up and do
what such banks normally do: accept collateral from anyone wanting a stock of
money and crediting the accounts of those people with money produced from thin
air. So banks set up and embark on their “thin air” trick.
Now
at that stage, there isn’t just one debt, namely the obligation on the
“collateral supplier” to pay back the thin air money to the bank: there are two
others.
Debt
No. 2: there is an obligation on the bank to give back the collateral to the
collateral provider when the latter has paid back the thin air money. So that,
so to speak, cancels out debt No. 1.
Debt
No 3: thin air money actually consists of an entirely artificial debt owed by
the bank to the customer. And the basic promise made by the bank to the
customer is that the bank will transfer the debt to someone else when
instructed to do so by the customer: an instruction that can be conveyed to the
bank with a cheque, debt card or by other means.
Having
said that the latter debt is “artificial”, it is actually very real in the
sense of being legally binding. That is, when someone writes a cheque for £X
drawn on bank A and it’s deposited in bank B, bank B at the end of the working
day will want £X worth of central bank money from bank A. And if bank A cannot
come up the money, then bank A is on the path to bankruptcy.
To
summarise, there are two debts worth £X owed by the bank to the customer, and
one debt worth £X owed by the customer to the bank. And that nets out to £X
owed by the bank to the customer: quite the reverse of what we hear from the
“money is debt” brigade!!!!
So
at this stage, i.e. where banks have credited thin air money to customers
accounts, but before customers have spent any of the money, banks are in debt
to customers.
Interest.
The
interest paid or not paid on a debt is absolutely crucial, because if no
interest is paid, the debt really doesn’t matter. To illustrate, if the Bank of
England plonked a billion pounds worth of freshly printed £50 notes in my
garage, I’d then owe the BoE a billion. But that would be no problem for me as
long as I don’t have to pay interest!!
So
is any interest paid in respect of any of the above three debts? Well the quick
answer is “no”. But let’s run thru those debts just to verify that.
Re
debt No.1, the thin air money owed by the customer to the bank, the question as
to whether interest is charged here is a bit complex. You have been warned!
On
initially crediting a customers account with thin air money, the initial
charge/s made by banks varies widely from bank to bank. In particular some
banks structure their charges in very deceptive ways so as to draw in
customers, in much the same ways as supermarkets have so called “loss leaders”.
But
let’s assume that bank charges strictly reflects costs.
So
. . . on initially accepting collateral and crediting a customer’s account, a
bank will incur administration costs: e.g. the cost of checking up on the value
of the collateral, other staff costs, bank building maintenance costs, etc etc.
So the bank will charge customers for those costs.
Of
course some banks CALL THAT CHARGE “interest”. But it’s not interest at all!!!
(In contrast, other banks call the relevant charge an “overdraft arrangement
fee” or something like that).
What is interest?
In
view of the obvious need to distinguish between genuine interest and other
charges, let’s clarify exactly what “interest” is.
Interest
arises even in barter economies. That is, if in such an economy one person
lends a house or any other asset to a second person, the former will normally
want some sort of payment. The first person will have forgone the use of, and
enjoyment of the asset, and will want a reward for that sacrifice.
The
payment made by the second person may well include something for items OTHER
THAN interest. For example the above
house owner may pay the insurance or any number of other costs involved in
maintaining a house, and the owner will want those costs reimbursed by the
tenant. But that doesn’t detract from the basic point here, namely that asset
owners normally want a reward simply for forgoing the use or enjoyment of the
asset. And that is what’s called “interest”.
Now
in crediting the accounts of customers, does a bank transfer any sort of real
asset to the customer? The answer is “no”: all the bank has done is to write
numbers in a ledger – or as is the case since the advent of computers, type
numbers into a computer. So at that stage, there is no reason to charge
interest. Administration costs – yes. But interest - no.
Debt No.2.
This
is the obligation on the bank to give collateral back to the customer, and a
typical house owner certainly does not charge their bank interest here. (Things
are a little different in the World’s financial centres where interest or some
other charge is often made for lending out collateral, but we’ll ignore that.)
Debt No.3.
This
is the fact that thin air money is an artificial debt owed by banks to
customers. Again, it is unheard of for customers to charge their banks interest
on that so called “debt”.
To
summarise, none of the above three debts are of any significance because no
interest is paid in respect of them.
The customer spends their thin air money.
The
next step is that a customer spends some of their thin air money. And “spending”
means giving money to someone in exchange for
REAL ASSETS or REAL goods and services. Now let’s stop the clock again.
The
recipient of the money has forgone the use of real assets or goods. And as
explained above, people who make that sacrifice normally want interest.
In
fact in the real world, it is normal practice when one firm supplies goods to
another the expect payment within a month, and to charge interest if payment is
not forthcoming after a month or two.
Reverting
to our hypothetical economy, if someone who supplies goods and gets paid has no
intention of doing anything more (e.g. spending the money they got) they’d just
lodge the money in a bank deposit account and would try to get interest on it. And
you cannot blame them: they’ve lost REAL ASSETS OR GOODS, and got nothing REAL
in return. So they’ll want interest.
To
summarise, once our original bank customer makes some sort of PERMANENT
withdrawal of their thin air money by spending it, that means someone else has
sacrificed real goods or assets and will want interest as a reward.
In
short, people who deposit money in banks for a significant period normally try
to get interest on that money, which in turn means banks have to pass on that
interest to . . . well, to the people who have so speak helped themselves to
goods or assets belonging to others.
In
other words, when a bank charges genuine interest (as opposed to administration
charges or admin charges which are CALLED “interest”), the bank is simply
acting as a go-between and between two people, one of whom has supplied goods
or assets to another (just as they might have done in a barter economy). And as
is the case in a barter economy, the person conferring said assets or goods
will try to get interest.
To
summarise, where a bank charges genuine interest, that is not a charge for creating money: it simply
reflects the fact that one person has supplied assets or goods to another, and
quite understandably wants interest. And the bank is simply acting as
go-between.
Is
money in a deposit account really money?
The
above arguments are supported by a procedure adopted by those charged with
measuring the money supply of countries round the world. That is, while money
in current or checking accounts is almost invariably counted as money, money in
deposit accounts tends not to be so counted. And the longer the “term” of the
deposit account, the less likely the so called money in that account is to be
actually counted as money. Plus, the longer the “term” of a deposit account,
the more interest it tends to pay.
Put
another way, as regards so called money which is quite clearly money (i.e.
money in current accounts) interest just doesn’t enter the picture – little or
no interest is earned normally on current accounts. So if anyone wants to claim
there is a debt here, or that for every pound of money there is a pound of
debt, then IN A SENSE they are right. But the real flaw in the latter claim is
that no interest is paid in respect of the debt.
So
just as where I’m in debt to the tune of a trillion trillion, the debt is
immaterial because no interest is paid.
Established banking systems.
To
recap, we’ve considered the scenario where there is initially no money, and
commercial banks create money and that money is spent. Another and more
realistic scenario is where a commercial bank system has been going for decades
or centuries, and that system effects a money supply increase (as it was doing
like there’s no tomorrow just prior to the recent crisis).
In
fact, much the same reasoning applies. To illustrate, a bank will charge for
ADMINISTRATION costs, but will not charge genuine interest for initially
creating money. Interest payments only arise where one entity has lodged money
in a bank for a significant period with a view to getting interest, which means
the bank has to pass that interest on to entities that have WITHDRAWN money for
significant periods from the bank.
But banning “debt money” WOULD reduce debts.
Having
argued that commercial banks “debt money” does not increase debts, there is
actually one transmission mechanism via which a ban on commercial bank money
creation WOULD reduce debts. It’s as follows.
The
above ban would obviously constrain lending by commercial banks, and the effect
would be deflationary. But that could easily be countered by having the
government / central bank machine create and spend new money into the economy.
The net result would be that all participants in the economy would have more
money and would thus not need to incur so much debt.